Notes: The following is records of yesterday's online chat with
Vicente Loscertales, secretary general of the Bureau of International
Exhibitions (BIE).
I want to take this opportunity to explain to millions of people the
importance, the values and the messages of the World Expo 2010 as well as the
role of our organisation. Very particularly, this great event will be one of the
major events in the history of World Expos and probably a big one for the future
because of the type of Expo that it is.
1. How do you like the revamped official Website of the World
Expo?
I have to congratulate you for your efforts to renew the Website and to
create a very attractive Website for communication with people all over the
world. You know, the World Expo is an event which can be visited by a large
number of people. But if we can use the IT in the way you are using it in the
Website to give hundreds of millions of people access to the World Expo, we can
reinforce the messages and value of the Expo.
2. What is the function of the BIE?
This question is very relevant. The BIE is an international non-governmental
organisation which has 98 member states. The role of the BIE is to regulate the
conditions, the frequency and the categories of World Expos, to transmit the
messages, to keep the values and to make the Expos relevant events for better
life and a better future for mankind. And we have to protect and preserve the
locations and values of Expos and to keep the BIE's role as an element for peace
and promotion of international cooperation and protection of all the cultures in
the world. The current BIE was created in 1928 through an international
Convention and it makes it possible for many countries to help one another to
use Expos to achieve their goals at the international level.
3. Have you visited the World Expo site? What is your
impression?
I have visited the Expo site many times and I will visit it many more times
up to 2010 and even beyond. We are following all the transformations of the
site, from the very beginning up to the current stage. If we are preparing a
stage to receive 70 million people and to make them comfortable, to make them
enjoy the pavilions, to be able to feed them, to take care of them in case they
need anything, we need to take basic issues including the site planning and
implementation in a very patient and thoughtful way.
You will receive 70 million to 80 million visitors, which means hundreds of
thousands per day, it is a big challenge. People don't want long queues and they
expect everything to be clean and attractive and they want to see things in an
entertaining way and that is why the Expo site is important. Previous Expos also
had large numbers of visitors, Osaka Expo in 1970 had 60 million, but here we
are going to have 80 million, which means the site has to be planned in a
different way from previous Expos.
In addition, the site should be well integrated with the city. It has to be
part of the city after the end of the Expo and therefore, has to integrate in a
natural and harmonious way. The site has to be beautiful, innovative and
environmental-friendly. The reason why I like to visit the site very often is to
see how it is progressing and how beautiful it is becoming.
4. How many times have you visited Shanghai? How do you feel about
the city?
I can't recall the exact number of times I have been to Shanghai but I have
been coming here regularly since 1994. In those twelve years, I have seen the
city's transformation into one of the most exciting cities of the world.
Shanghai has always been since its creation an international, open and dynamic
city. When you visit Shanghai and you see the transformation you will think
there can't be a better stage on which to show China to the world and world to
China.
5. What is your assessment of the preparations for the Expo?
The preparations of the World Expo are proceeding in an efficient and smooth
fashion. Previously, we had two main tasks. The first was to prepare all the
concepts and all the documents that we need to put them into practice at the
Expo. That means, the content, master plan, the master plan for the site, the
cooperation plan and the marketing plan etc. We have practically finished this
stage and it is time for implementation. Implementation means the construction
and creation of the Expo and also the preparations for the exhibits and
communication with all the citizens, in Shanghai, China and the world.
The physical side of the Expo, the architecture, the brochures and the
exhibits, are tangible things. But there is also a psychological and mental side
to the Expo. They are important part of the communication and things we have to
do. I am very positive in my assessment. I know people have been working many
hours per day, sometimes 15 hours per day. But from now on, we have to work 24
hours a day if we are to meet the challenges of having the most important Expo
in history.
6. What do you think about the Expo theme,"Better City, Better Life"?
What's your understanding of it?
The main asset of the Expo is its theme. "Better City, Better Life" is the
key challenge for human beings in the years to come. We are lucky to have the
intelligence to choose such a theme which for me means first the quality of
life. Expos are for citizens. And you know the cities should be a place where
people can develop themselves, interact with other human beings and realise the
fulfillment of their lives and develop all the potentials of human beings. In
this 21st century, it is important to have this sense at all parts of the world,
of cities, of all cultures, because basically we are all affected by the same
problems. The theme "Better City, Better Life" allows us to cooperate, to work
together, to improve the life in all cities of the world and to create a better
future and a vision to solve the problems of urban societies. I would like
people who are following this conversation today to extend what we say about the
theme we mean for all, for everybody and we don't mean for a small group of
cities or a small group of countries. This is something which has to be useful
for all human society.
7. Yesterday Shanghai hosted the fourth Shanghai World Expo Forum?
What's your opinion of the forum?
Yesterday we had the fourth forum of Shanghai World Expo. The purpose was to
get opinions and comments about the Expo theme in order to better develop this
theme and display it at the Expo. I think the forum was of very high quality and
the opinions we received were extremely useful in developing the Expo theme.
There was a particularly initiative that they found extremely important which
was what they called the setting up of "best practice" urban areas in the Expo.
We have to show during the Expo how cities solve problems, not only in a
theoretical way, but in a practical way. This Expo is about better life, and
better life is about very practical things. We have to invite cities which have
a record of excellent urban practice to come here and show what can be achieved
in a sound and efficient way. I have to congratulate the organisers of the forum
because it was a success.
8. Is there an ideal city? What does it look like, or what are its
characteristics?
I don't want to jump to being philosophical. I have to say the wish for a
Utopia, or an ideal city, has been in the minds of human kind for many
centuries. The ideal is something we all need to have in order to improve. An
ideal city is a model of a city which we would like our own city to become. That
means a place where all people can live in peace, can fulfill themselves, can
realise their potential, can educate their children, can take care of their
parents, and live in an open, friendly, civilised society. A city in which you
can earn your living, enjoy being with your friends, develop your knowledge and
become a better human being and accept the generosity of people who come from
outside. We may have this picture of a city where some people may love sports,
they want a city full of swimming pools and stadiums. You know, an ideal city is
strongly related to their own tastes and visions. We all should keep always the
sense of an ideal city because that will encourage us to improve our own
reality. We have to look for the idea not outside, but inside, within our own
city and within ourselves.
9. What are your expectations for the Shanghai World Expo?
My expectations for the Shanghai World Expo are very high. Because firstly
this event will take place in a city which is one of the most dynamic, open, and
important cities in Asia and in the world. Secondly, because this Expo takes
place in China, a country which has a rich culture that we need to show to the
world. Thirdly, because the international community is very keen on
strengthening ties with China. All countries of the world will come to China and
try to develop friendly and fruitful cooperation with China. Fourthly, because
the theme of the Expo, "Better City, Better Life", as I explained before, is a
key element in improving the quality of life. Fifthly, because we live a global
society in which the problems of other countries affect ourselves. Therefore, it
is urgent for us to find common solutions. All these elements have been
explained and if we end up holding only a mediocre exposition, we would fail to
meet all these expectations. So we should aim to do our best.
10. Will you come to Shanghai with your family to visit the Expo in
2010?
Well, the answer to that is very simple: yes. If I don't come with my family
in 2010, they will never forgive me.
11. What improvements can Shanghai make for the Expo? Your
suggestions?
The city of Shanghai is working very hard for the Expo. Improvements in the
transportation system, such as the metro lines and the inter-city trains, and
also improvements in citizens who will host the Expo -- they are key elements to
make a successful Expo. The residents have to play host to foreign visitors, to
help them in the city during the Expo and prepare a clean, friendly and open
city for all. My suggestion is that we have to feel that this Expo belongs to
the whole Shanghai, the whole China and that all citizens feel involved in the
Expo.
12. What is the secret of your career success?
It is a very personal question. I think there is no secret. But if I may say
something not specifically about my career, it is about life and my belief that
people should take everything with passion. Everything you do has to be done
with interest, with love, with a real will to improve things. Without thinking
too much of ourselves, and thinking about the well-being of the rest.
13. What is your opinion of the greening of our city? Is it
sufficient? How can we better integrate Nature and the city?
My opinion of the greening of the city is that a lot of work has been done
and is being done. But there is still a long way to go. The greening of the city
is a process that goes on over many years. In the past, we did not have the same
awareness of the importance of environmental issues, which means we destroyed
Nature for many years and now we are trying to help Nature recover. Everybody
knows and agrees that efforts to save the environment should be continued. These
efforts like planting trees are not only done by the authorities but by all of
us as citizens. We have to take care of Nature and protect Nature. If we all
don't do that, the authorities can do many things but they will never be able to
create a green and pleasant atmosphere. That requires the active cooperation of
people.
14. What can Shanghai learn from the preparations of Expo 2008
Zaragoza?
These two expos are very different. The Zaragoza Expo is going to take place
in a small space and the Shanghai Expo covers much larger space. But, you know,
both of them have a very strong theme in common. Firstly, they share the same
messages and values. And in the case of Zaragoza, its theme is water and
sustainable development. Water is the main element for life. And this is very
close to the theme "Better City, Better Life". For a better life, for a better
city, we need better water and better use of water. Therefore, the two Expos
have to create opportunities to exchange experiences because they are being
prepared in the same time span. We need both of them to cooperate closely.
15. Where do you get new information about the World Expo?
We are very lucky and privileged. We get information mainly from organisers
of the Expo. We are in permanent contact and we work together and we receive
almost every day updates on the preparations for the Expo. The second way of
getting information is because we are an international organisation with 98
member states, and many of them -- almost all of them -- are going to
participate in the Shanghai Expo, we get all their comments and information. We
also get information from the media. The media are very interested in the
Shanghai World Expo. So, they have created a large number of articles and
programs, and you know we follow up all this information. We also get
information from companies interested in the Expo and some of them give us
information and ask us for comment. Finally, we get information from citizens.
People are very interested in the Website of the World Expo, sometimes, they
address our organisation and they -- schools, universities and individuals --
ask us:"Do you have any brochures on Shanghai, or any material to let us know
more about the city?" On the other hand, they give us their opinions of the
promotions whether they're right or not.
16. How do you think Shanghai can make use of the Expo site after it
ends?
This is a very important question. The site, as I said before, has to be
harmoniously integrated within the strategic master plan of the city. And
because the site has to be a good example of the quality of life after the Expo
ends, it should remain a very important feature of the city. An area in which
environmental issues have been well solved, a place where the cultural
infrastructure is important and where citizens can enjoy, work and live in a
pleasant surroundings.
17. You used to be Director of Participant's Division Expo 1992
Seville, Spain. Do you have any special experience that would be useful for
us?
There is something I would like to share with citizens. When countries come
to a foreign country to prepare their own participation in the Expo, they
usually don't know the local language, culture and habits. Because they want to
do well, they want to present their countries in a magnificent way and they
become from time to time nervous as they may think they have not done enough
preparations on their pavilions. What I want to tell you is the need for
cooperation. It is very important to be patient, to explain to them, to help
them and to make them feel welcome. Sometimes it is not very easy because we all
have our priorities, we all have our own work to be done. But we believe Expo is
a huge cooperative program. It is not only the responsibility of the organiser,
but the joint responsibility of organiser and participants. We always think that
we have to work hand in hand together and to make the process easier and the
result better.
18. Which Expo has been the most successful?
All Expos happen at a certain time, in different cultures and in different
historical contexts. It is impossible for me to answer this question. You know,
we have just had a very successful Expo in Aichi, Japan. As the Expos have more
than one hundred years history, they have transformed cities like Paris and
London, where are full of Expo remains. To answer this question, I feel it is
like trying to answer the question of who has been the most beautiful woman in
the history of humankind.
19. Is there any image ambassador of World Expo? If there is, would
you choose the hurdler Liu Xiang or basketball player Yao Ming? Why?
I know they are both well-known sports people. They are excellent,
successful, disciplined, hard-working. They are the symbol for many young
citizens. I think both of them could be ambassadors of the Expo. I met Yao Ming
at the Aichi Expo. He came with the Shanghai delegation to promote the Shanghai
Expo. I have not had the pleasure of meeting Liu Xiang. But I think both of
them, one is a very successful basketball player, the other a fast runner, are
qualified to be ambassadors. We also need artists, intellectuals and citizens
who have done a great job in their own life and careers to be ambassadors.
20. Where do you want to live after your retirement?
I don't know. It depends very much in what condition you are. I would like to
continue to see my friends, to continue to see the cities I love. Among those
cities, Shanghai will be the one I want to come from time to time.
21. Do you think it is the city that makes life better, or the city
plus suburbs and countryside?
The city is not something isolated. Nowadays cities don't have walls, they
integrate with the countryside. In the sub-themes of the Shanghai World Expo,
there is one about the interaction between urban and rural areas. It is the key.
Thank you very much for raising these interesting questions. I think this is
a great opportunity to contact with citizens and I have answered all the
questions in the best way I can. If there are other questions in the future, we
can contact through the Website. Next time I come to Shanghai, you invite me
again and I will come with pleasure.